Percy over to 'dark side'...

1st Year Joined: Jun 13, 2004 Posts: 54

He may not have been under that curse but I think that the higher he rises in the ranks (assuming the events at the end of OotP have not resulted in a demotion) the more likely a candidate he is for being put under it later on.

Someone high up in the ranks who has been there for years is likely to be spotted doing something out of character more quickly than someone relatively new whose habits are not known.

I would not be surprised if he did find himself put under the curse at some point.

Post subject: Re: Percy Under Imperious Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:29 AM

I think Percy has a thirst for power, and if he's not careful, he could turn out like Umbridge.

She had a thirst for power and used it to whatever means to get the power she so wanted. I see Percy having the potential to do the same. Sad but True.

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1st Year Joined: Jun 15, 2004 Posts: 46

It would make sense if someone who went to the dark side would be Percy, but somehow I don't believe Rowling would make a Weasley go to the dark side even though Percy does have a thirst of power as stated above.

I do think he is the one of the Weasleys who may die...

Post subject: Percy and his inward evilness Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 02:23 PM

True, Percy is the one Weasley who is most likely to go over to the dark side. On the other hand, he may have actually learned something during the last book. He's had egg on his face twice now, and maybe that will teach him to be more careful in future and to take the slow road to success instead of trying to do it all in one day. There is yet hope that he will turn around, rejoin his family and fight for what's right, instead of becoming another Umbridge.

1st Year Joined: May 22, 2004 Posts: 93

Percy wasn't always so ambitious. He gradually grew moreso with every year he was at school I think. I'm not sure what the public return of voldemort will do to him. I think he will admit he was wrong. Sirius might have been right about him seeing reality when Voldemort shows back up. I think he really does have the Gryffindor bravery and will show it in the end to redeem himself.

1st Year Joined: Aug 09, 2004 Posts: 22

I feel fairly torn on this because although Percy is a Weasley he was totally uncharacteristic in OoTP - he was an 'enormous git' and showed some of the qualities which the Dark Lord prides his death eaters on: arrogance and a strong sense of loyalty to his elders (sadly not his family!)

However this is where I feel Percy differs from the dark side; he chooses loyalty to high ranking Ministry officials i.e. Crouch & Fudge NOT the Dark Lord and THIS is why I do not think he is evil.

As for reconciling with his family I fear that the Weasley children may not be as forgiving as their parents. Especially Fred and George who said something like 'yeh and I don't think i'll be accepting it any time soon' when speaking about Percy apologising. (can not find exact page, sorry)

I am, needless to say, looking forward to the next book so that all of my questions can be answered!

1st Year Joined: Jul 15, 2004 Posts: 48

There have been interrupted signs all along the series that Percy is up to something clandestine. In CoS it is perceived by Ginny to be due to his relationship with Penelope Clearwater, but there are several times he acts suspiciously:

Fred and George think he's been acting oddly because he stayed in his room and sent lots of owls.

He forces Ginny to take pepper-up potion when she looks pale during the time of her experience with the diary, but it could have been anything really.

He's walking around outside the Slytherin common room when Harry and Ron are polyjuiced as Crabb and Goyle.

His reaction when Penelope is petrified is explained by Ron as being because she was a prefect and Percy didn't think anything like that could happen to prefects, but I don't know. I kind of wonder if it was because he didn't expect her to be attacked for some other reason.

From GoF when Percy starts rambling on about how Mr. Crouch was right to sack Winky:

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"She didn't do anything - she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time!" Hermione snapped at Percy, who looked very taken aback. Hermione had always got on fairly well with Percy - better, indeed, than any of the others.

Percy feels different from the rest of his family. Fred and George certainly aren't likely to cut him much slack and Percy doesn't take teasing very well. Hermione gets along with him better than any of his siblings and now she's telling him he's too rigid.

Fred and George (and Ginny, too, for that matter) are some of the best examples of people who really have a sense of who they are and a healthy sense of self esteem. They aren't going to be told what makes them worthy. O.W.L.S.? They get enough to scrape by. N.E.W.T.S.? Don't even take them. But Percy defines himself by what he thinks others find impressive.

I think it's all a recipe for someone to try to find a sense of power, meaning, or sense of self-worth from an outside source.

Is he on the dark side? It seems like it to me, but even if he's not, as has been mentioned several times, devotion to Voldemort isn't the sole measure of evil. Umbridge wasn't a Voldemort servant, but still evil.

Post subject: Re: Percy Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 08:59 AM

[quote]Maybe he's already Voldemorts personal spy... and that'd probably result in either his death or going to Azcaban, or getting off but messing up his life.<hr></blockquote>

Hmm that has to be thought about.

I don't think that he's Voldemort's personal spy, that seems very strange.

We all know Percy want's power, and importance from people hight placed like Crouch and Fudge. I see him as a mean person, a person who can do anything to get what he wants even if it has to harm people. He's just like Crouch, very ambitious, and remember Crouch "gave" his one sun to the Dementors.

In OotP, Percy thinks that Fudge doesn't give much money to the Weasleys because he thinks Arthur loves the Muggles and that is strange for a wizard. Also the Weasleys are in contact with Dumbledore and don't forget Dumbledore is mud at the Ministry.

Fudge was saying that Dumbledore was a fool and that Harry was a liar but why? Because he didn't want to think that Voldemort's back. Percy knows Harry since he entered his first year in Hogwarts, he of course doesn't talk to him much but he knows that he's Ron's friend. The Weasleys all love Harry and Percy seems to as well until Harry comes back from the mase. Then the Daily Prophet starts to bring down Harry in saying that he's a liar and sick in the head with all he said. Percy believes that. But he works with Fudge so of course Fudge must be telling him things. In fact Percy would be a good spy if he wasn't so stupid about things and power.

Percy isn't the same as any members of the Weasley family, he looks more like Hermione. That's why Hermione is the one that goes on the better with him. They are both workers, but Hermione wouldn't go so fare to get power and glory. If you remember in GoF in the holidays, Percy was still working for the Minister. He never stops in fact.

I don't think Percy is a Death Eather because first now he doesn't live with his family and his door is closed to his parents. So that doesn't make much sense. What I'm wondering is when Fudge realized that Harry and Dumbledore were saying the truth, what will Percy do? Will he come back to his parents and excuse himself? That would be easy, I can already see the conversation:

'Mom, Dad I'm sorry.'

'It's nothing Percy, glad to have you back'

Well I don't think it will be like that but Mrs and Mr Weasley will forgive him. Contradicting myself for what I said just above, Voldemort maybe profited that Percy left to make him a spy? Also Sirius isn't there any more and he was quiet suspicious about things, I mean he always advised Harry and he always make suppositions on people. So now he's gone, maybe nobody would see anything if Percy was Voldemort's spy, except probably Ron, Hermione and Harry. Harry will never forgive him I think, for Ron it will be very hard so even if Percy comes back, it won't be long friendly talks with everybody!Edited by: <A HREF=http://p072.ezboard.com/bsiriusblackfanclub.showUserPublicProfile?gid=catzeyes@siriusblackfanclub>Catzeyes[/url] at: 8/15/04 6:03 am

Post subject: Re: Percy Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 09:32 PM

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No matter how stupid Percy may be, I really highly doubt that he would go over to the dark side. Percy, the kid who wrote a paper about cauldron bottoms!

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Muggle Joined: Aug 16, 2004 Posts: 6

i dont think percy will go/or has already gone over, to the dark side because of something else i read at a different forum. the actor who plays percy was telling jkr how he was receiving a lot of hate mail and she replied by saying domething like "dont worry, percy will do something later to redeam himself." he wouldn't be able to redeam himself if he went over to the dark side...unless she meant he would redeam himself after coming back from the dark side...assuming he's going or already is there...i just confused myself...sorry if i didn't help

Muggle Joined: Dec 02, 2004 Posts: 3

I think Percy will eventually go back to his family and make amends. It's going to take something big, possibly even the death of one of the Weasley's (I hope that doesn't happen) to make him come around. And I don't think he will become a Death Eater, Percy may be a stupid git but that doesn't make him evil. He's going to have to watch his back though. He may not be under the Imperius Curse now, but Voldemort wants spies right? Well who better than the Senior Undersecretary to the Minister? Okay so there may be better candidates, but still, he's gotta watch out. I think his ambitionns will be a problem and make him more susceptible to the clever tricks of Lucius Malfoy, or any of Voldemort's other supporters for that matter.

Post subject: Re: Percy Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 05:45 PM

KTW, you are right that it might take the death of one of the Weasleys for Percy to finally wake up and decide which side he wants to be on. Now, we have just learned from JKR's site update that the Prewetts who died during the first war against Voldemort were indeed Molly Weasley's brothers. Percy might realise that Voldemort and his Death Eaters have already attacked the Weasley family in the past and could do it again. This might be enough to help turn him around. I keep thinking that he is not bad at heart, just blinded by his ambition. And he was a Griffindor, not a Slytherin...

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Post subject: Re: Percy Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 01:02 PM

I have an idea myself.

Maybe, Percy is pretending that he is upset with the Weasleys, and he tries to get as much information as possible from Fudge, Malfoy and so on. Although he is so stubborn, he could be a spy for the Order, I know this hasn�t happen in Ootp, but he could be in the future.

I mean, Fudge thought of him as one of them, as one that agreed with the Minister about Voldemort. Maybe Percy did that because he wanted so much to be part of the Minister, not only to write long reports about cauldrons. And so, he gets to be Fudge�s assistant. Maybe for his �career� that was a big step.

But I still think that in the future he could be useful to the Order, and why not, be a member, off course if he gets back together with his family and realises that he was wrong. I don�t think he really knows that he could be helpful in another way. But we know Percy, when it comes to his career he would anything to reach the highest position.

Percy is a vey stubborn person, and the fact that he doesn�t want to talk to his family shows us how self-centered Percy really is. I still can�t believe what he did. Maybe his brothers had something to do with the fact that he is so workaholic. Bill and Charlie I mean. They were very intelligent, but Percy doesn�t agree with Charlie�s hair and earring, which prooves that he wants to be above them, he wants to be better and actually the best. But instead of being the best in his family, he messes things up.

But I don�t think he will get on the Dark Side. Idon�t think he is that stupid�. If I reconsider�Maybe he is. But noo, that would be too weird, although I do think he will die sooner or later, don�t really know why I feel like that, but it�s just a hunch.

Well that was my idea: that Percy can become a spy for the Order and maybe a member if he repairs his mistakes, hm�. That would take a lot since he did a bunch of mistakes�.

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