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#1: What if Voldemort... Author: Peter Pettigrew

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:00 PM
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...decided to come back as a ghost? Do you think he would be given that option? I'm not sure if he would be able to, since his soul was fractured, so even if he DID want to become a ghost, I don't think he would be a whole ghost...if that makes sense?

But he's always been afraid of death, so I think if he did have the option to become a ghost, he would. Could you imagine the ghost of Voldie wandering the halls of Hogwarts? Last edited by aoife on Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:25 PM; edited 1 times in total

#2: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: Fawkes_forever , Location: Forbidden Forest

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:34 AM
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Ghost Voldy? That is so weird.

No, because a ghost is an imprint of a departed soul, and LV's soul has been fractured and destroyed (the soul is suppose to be intact when one dies), I don't think that is a possibility for him. Maybe he just dissolved into nothingness or something, and didn't even go into the "great beyond" or whatever you choose to call it.

#3: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: Phobia_Deimos , Location: PA

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:36 AM
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*shivers* THAT would be creepy.

And continuing on that note. Since his soul would've been fractured would that work like 7 copies of Voldemort wandering around Hogwarts? or would he come back like half of him? Because to my knoweledge the only Horcrux he managed to protect was th diadem. Could he have been powerful enough to possess someone? sort of like he did with Quirrel but a ghostly possession?

If so who would he possess? Harry? Somehow I doubt it because Harry wouldfight too hard and what would be thepoint? But if he wanted to be really cruel I'd say Ginny or one of his children. And Voldemort threatens them with the whole bit of" If you tell anyone I'll do what I did to your grandparents/inlaws"

The possibilites are endless and my mind is allready moving

#4: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: cazzadragon , Location: Down in her dungeon, brewing Potions...

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:16 AM
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Interesting question...

Apart from the fact I don't think Voldemort had enough soul left in him to sustain a ghostly form (the six horcrux pieces were destroyed so there wouldn't have been much left of the 'conscious Voldemort'), I don't think Voldemort would want to be a ghost.

We've seen that if you are a ghost you cannot feel, taste, or have any effect on your surroundings (unless you are a poltergeist, or are like Myrtle and can manipulate water). As a ghost you are somewhat stuck in one place (the Ministry forced Myrtle to haunt the place of her death and the Hogwarts ghosts don't leave the Hogwarts grounds).

In life Voldemort seeks power and wants to be able to control and rule over others. As a ghost he couldn't do any of this - he'd be nothing. If he were like Nearly-Healess-Nick, all he could do is make people feel cold by passing through them, or maybe just floating around and insulting them...
Not exactly the same as AK-ing...

So no - I don't see how Voldemort would want to be a 'lesser-being', so to speak.

I think possessing is out of the question too (though it does send a few plot bunnies running around lol). With only an eighth of his soul left, I doubt he'd have enough strength or magic to be able to possess. When he did it with Quirrel (though I think this was more leeching than possessing), he had the other seven pieces holding him in the living world, and he probably drew strength from them somehow in his depleated form. As for possessing Ginny, the Diary horcrux was able to do this because Ginny opened herself up to him by pouring her heart out onto the pages.
Shot-to-pieces Voldemort wouldn't be able to do something like that Razz

#5: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: BaraRose , Location: Wandering about

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 04:51 PM
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He didn't protect the diadem. The diadem is gone because of the fiendfyre or however it's spelled.

That would certainly be creepy. But just imagine if he could...Harry and Co.'s kids...

"Look! It's the Moldy Voldy ghost! Get him!" and they all fire random spells and stuff at him...

"Voldy is Moldy! Voldy is Moldy!!" And his response..."Stop! Stop making fun of me! Stop it!!"

Hehe....

Edit -

I thought he was completely destroyed?

The Snake, the Diary, the Ring, the Diadem, the Locket, the Cup, the Boy...Would his piece inside him have survived? Last edited by BaraRose on Sat Jul 28, 2007 04:54 PM; edited 1 times in total

#6: Re: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: Faith , Location: Hagrids Hut

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 07:35 PM
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I don't think it matters how fractured LV soul was in death, I am of the opinion that your soul would come back together in the end.

I think the fact is that Voldemort soul particles were killed before he actually died. Thus they can never be rejoined in death. So I dont think there is any chance of LV coming back as a ghost and well also we saw 19 years later so.

IF he did though, I would imagine people just laughing at him. Or the Ministry confining him to a place were only muggles dwell.

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The Snake, the Diary, the Ring, the Diadem, the Locket, the Cup, the Boy...Would his piece inside him have survived?

I don't think so, you can't live without at least a bit of your soul and seeing as that was the very last bit of his then I would imagine it could not survive as it was killed.

Love from Faith
xxxx

#7: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: lupinsangel , Location: Ontario, Canada

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 03:35 PM
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I think Voldemort could become a ghost and I think he did, actually. That flayed child like thing in King's Cross was him, was it not? Doesn't that mean that he's sort of in limbo? Not alive, yet hasn't departed?

However, Voldemort would never have been able to handle being made fun of as a ghost.... soo... do ghosts always remain where they died? or can they move on? We know Myrtle, Helena Ravenclaw, and the Bloody Baron all died at Hogwarts and stayed.

Sorry for being off topic but it's interesting to consider what would happen to ghost Voldy if that happened.

#8: Re: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: Faith , Location: Hagrids Hut

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 05:36 PM
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That flayed child like thing in King's Cross was him, was it not? Doesn't that mean that he's sort of in limbo? Not alive, yet hasn't departed?

Ooh was that him? I thought at the time maybe it was but then I remembered LV was still alive so it couldn't of been.... I would say it was his fractured soul but I am of the belief that the soul pieces are dead and could not go anywhere. Though yeh, I am the same as you lupinsangel, I think it was LV but I think I may be wrong.I hope somebody asks her who it was.

As for your question... I don't know. I think maybe you go back to the place you considered home or something. Though Myrtle was able to leave and haunt her bully. She is only at Hogwarts because of the Ministry. I don't know but it is a very good question.

Love from Faith
xxx

#9: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: twelvegrimmauldplace , Location: The Devourer

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 05:38 PM
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I don't think it would be possible for Voldemort to become a ghost...even if the parts of his soul found each other, I don't think they'd just join together. I think it would be just as, or more, hard to rejoin those pieces together as it was to split them in the first place.

Apart from that, I don't think Voldemort would wish to become a ghost. As Sir Nicholas tells Harry, ghosts are neither here nor there. As a ghost, Voldemort wouldn't be fully alive - he wouldn't be able to scare the wizarding world or have any sort of huge influence and would, therefore, be entirely discontent with the situation. Thus, I feel that he would see becoming a ghost as entirely pointless.

Argh. Having written that, I guess it depends on how confident he was. If he believed that he was going to defeat Harry and rule the wizarding world* (and if being a ghost was a possibility for him), maybe he set imprints, so he could watch the world that he had 'created' after his death. And perhaps his ghostly opinions would still be important in a world like that...being a ghost for the 'good' of the magical community rather than have people see that last act as cowardly.

Maybe he would've set imprints if he had defeated Harry (for the same reasons as above).

*Obviously this confidence would've backfired...and I'm not entirely sure whether I think Voldemort would've wanted to do this anyway (if it were possible).

#10: Re: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: FawkesFire , Location: St. Cloud Minnesota, USA

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 07:18 PM
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I think there could be a possibility that Voldemort would decide to come back as a ghost, but probably not likely. As Sir Nicholas states, most dead people would rather just accept death, than come back as a ghost. Do you really think Voldemort would have wanted the ability to see Harry again, after Harry had killed him? Probably not likely, but that's beside the point. I think Voldemort would have just accepted his death, even though he was evil, and live on with the other dead people. Mabey he could try being a good wizard....for once.

-FawkesFire

#11: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: Star Snuffles

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 06:03 AM
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I agree with everyone who's said that he probably couldn't come back as a ghost, even if he wanted to. I think the scene in King's Cross shows that he still exists in some form as I believe that was meant to show what would become of him in the afterlife.

That being said, I do think it would have been at least tempting to him to come back as a ghost. He certainly did everthing he could to avoid death. I don't think he was at all prepared to move on, and I'm not sure he would have been accepting of his own death. The idea of being able to at least interact with the living world would have been appealing to him. Even if he couldn't physically do anything himself, he would have been able to perhaps influence others.

Just my two cents.

-- Star Snuffles

#12: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: BaraRose , Location: Wandering about

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 07:03 PM
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I know I already posted but that was me being stupid...

I think if he could come back as a ghost he would, looking at that possibility. Why would he have done everything possible to avoid death if he wasn't afraid? People who are afraid choose to come back as ghosts. That's why NH Nick came back, right? And why would he have done everything to become immortal if he wasn't afraid of death?

#13: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: KiaraAllerion , Location: A world of my own, of course.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 09:29 PM
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It seems that Voldy would be unable to come back as a ghost with his soul fractured so much. He was basically 1/7th of the person he was before, so even if he was able to become a ghost, then he would make much less of an imprint than the other ghosts.

He was obviously afraid of death. He spent much of his reign making Horcruxes, which would keep him alive in case he did die (or something of the sort). I think that Voldy might've come back as a ghost, or something of the sort, but even if he did, chances are he wouldn't be, well, normal, not that he ever exactly was.

#14: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: DefNormal , Location: Texas

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 05:07 AM
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I think that IF voldy could come back as a ghost he would. He would see it as an oppurtunity to influence young minds and force a revolution. Although he would be living threw another person maybe his hatred for Harry and Half bloods was enough to give up on his pride. As many have said before me I don't think moving on would be really an option for him as he was so scared of the after life anyway. But still the question of whether or not he could come back as a ghost is still very interesting. Do the remains of his shattered self remain in limbo until he can find them and join together? Would the act of remorse that would allow him to bind his soul together force him to realize that life after death wasn't so bad?

#15: *Spoilers* What if Voldemort... Author: ceinwyn , Location: Cold North East of Mugglengland.

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:19 PM
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I don't think he can return as a ghost. The King's Cross image of the flayed infant reminds me of what LV was before he was reborn in GoF, and at that time he was a living 1/7 of his soul. If all the destroyed remnants are in some sort of limbo and in that state, they cannot go "on". I think it is impossible to rejoin and make them a whole soul. DD made it clear that there was indeed nothing to be done about the wretched remnant in King's Cross.

Plus, LV was really the only wizard who (I presume) had applied horcrux magic, not just once but a lot more times than anyone had ever heard of, so I suggest all of the fragments of his soul are in some sort of between place where, again, nothing can be done.

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